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Old March 31st, 2011   #1
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Default Hypothetical STI Swap Question

"if" I were to purchase a Bug Eye Wagon, and have most of the 2004 STI bits Swapped to it, what would be an estimated cost to have that done? I think with my abilities I can handle some things, but pulling the motor and transmission is not one of them.

Brakes
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Front seats at least, I don't think the Rear STI Sedan seats would swap correctly.
Instrument cluster

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Old March 31st, 2011   #2
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Engine, trans, diff, brakes, hubs, suspension, wiring , ecu, cluster

engine- 3000-5000 ish complete
trans, diff, hubs, brakes- 4000-6000
suspension- 300-1500 depending
wiring harness- 300-500 plus 750-1000 for the merge
ecu, cluster, dash- 4-500

10000-15000

plus installation
plus tune
plus about 2000 for misc stuff, fluids etc
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Old March 31st, 2011   #3
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Hit up garage tuning

http://www.garagetuning.com/swapprice.html

3000 for labor


I am not sure how well the Sti suspension would sit on a wagon because the wagon is not as wide as the sedan...... But hit up some of the Sti swapped wagon guys on NASIOC
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Old March 31st, 2011   #4
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yah, hit up garagetuning (kevin)...
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Old March 31st, 2011   #5
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

3K.... hmmmm

Another question, is there any difference in picking up a Bugeye Impreza for the swap verses a WRX?

If I get more serious I will check out Nabisco.
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Old March 31st, 2011   #6
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

I read the FAQ on Garagetunings website and it looks like the $3000.00 Labor is for the motor only, not a full STI swap.

So that leaves me wondering how much work it is going to be for me to move the other STI bits over......
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Old March 31st, 2011   #7
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

IIRC those price quotes for swapping a wrx/sti motor in an RS which usually means splicing harnesses unless ure planning a dash swap.

I would ask kevin either way. If i were to do it, i'd have one shop transfer everything (and i mean everything) over.
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Old March 31st, 2011   #8
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

I sent kevin an Email asking about a full swap. It seems to me they would be the best people in Socal to get this done at if I go that route.

My preferred car would be an 02-03 Bugeye Wagon, but I might consider an older Wagon as well.

Does anyone know if i am doing this does the new shell need to be a wrx, or will a TS be fine?


Also, speaking of swaps, while reading on NASIOC I found this:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1968466

That is rad.
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TS should be fine...

that is not a rad swap. a rad swap would be a GC wit an evo motor... ja ja
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Old April 1st, 2011   #10
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Try doin the work yourself. It's a real ass-kicker (especially if the crank case and tranny have never been separated!) but it's pretty straightforward and a worthwhile experience. If you have some organization skills, it helps the process go smoother. If people are willing to pay $3k, maybe I should be doing this work for people lol.
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Try doin the work yourself. It's a real ass-kicker (especially if the crank case and tranny have never been separated!) but it's pretty straightforward and a worthwhile experience. If you have some organization skills, it helps the process go smoother. If people are willing to pay $3k, maybe I should be doing this work for people lol.


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Old April 1st, 2011   #12
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

So, Kevin Emailed me back and said he could do a full swap, motor, transmission, cluster, etc etc for $5000.00.

But he did say it was better to do it with a pre-01 Impreza not a newer car. I am going to email him back to ask why. You guys know why?

And a no-go on swapping the suspension, he said better to leave what came with the car.

I am just trying to educate myself to see if it is worth doing.
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cuz it's lighter and looks way better, that's why...
thurr are a couple of GCs in SCIC that are for sale and it's been a while...
i'd low ball them... ja ja
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Old April 1st, 2011   #14
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

Just weight and looks?

I happen to prefer the Bugeye look on the wagons, but I do like the GC's as well. What kind of differences are we talking here when it comes to weight?

If I pick up a GC Chassis, is the suspension gonna suck balls and force me to go buy new shocks on all 4 wheels?

I was really hoping my current STI suspension would swap over so I could enjoy some of the handling I was used to in my STI, while having a Sleeper Daily Driver.

I will have to start looking at Older GC's for a shell car. I know for one thing I could save some money going that route, the Older GC's are much cheaper than 02 and 03 models.
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

depends which model you want, L or RS...
RS has moonroof and electric windows... weighs more, 2700lbs (i think)...
i don't really know much about these things, E, JWalker, and josh should chime in since they has a G rides...

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f4/t15536...ml#post2441367

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f128-swaps-conversions
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Old April 1st, 2011   #16
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

Power Windows is a must if this is going to be my daily driver. So I guess I would only consider RS Models.

2700 is about 600lb lighter then my STI, so that is a big diff. But is that a 2 door weight or the wagon weight? I def want a wagon if I go the GC Route.

I checked Autotrader, and there is like 1 impreza wagon from 93-01 in the 300 mile range, so i guess finding one will be a challenge of sorts.

I am gonna look around a bit on the rs25 forums, thanks.
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far as i know, 2, 4, wagon are almost teh same...

since you has teh STI, you can just get a L model and have kevin swap teh interior...
then you can finally say that you have a STi wagon...

i would find a L wagon auto or not since it doesn't matter and swap everything out from ur STi except teh springs/strusts. replace those wit teh ISC coilovers, no harsh rides.

hit up E, he has a GF swap...
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you got a lot of reading to do...
and a lot of spending... ja ja

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f145-members-journals

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Old April 1st, 2011   #19
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Default Re: Hypothetical STI Swap Question

Thanks Randi, I have been doing some reading and looking.

I think in the long run it is going to be cheaper to fix my STI, I always figured a swap would cost more, but I think the cost is going to be way more then I can handle right now.

That is not going to stop me from dreaming though...... lol :)
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i think you got it backwards...
in teh long run, a swap will be a lot cheaper...
insurance and gas will save you a lot...
give ur insurance company a call and ask how much to insure a GF...

i pay le$$ than $87/month wit a $100 deductable through Allstate, yes Allstate...

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call tony at econolube and get a price, the reason that the suspension swap is odd is because you have sedan parts, gc's and wagons both run a narrower track width, meaning if you put all your sti bits on either, the suspension would reach farther out towards the fenders. If i were you i would swap into an Outback Sport, thats my favorite
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After I wrecked my black STi, I was seriously considering a swap into a GM chassis Impreza L since I pretty much salvaged everything off of the wreck. But yeah there's A LOT more to it than just putting parts on.
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After I wrecked my black STi, I was seriously considering a swap into a GM chassis Impreza L since I pretty much salvaged everything off of the wreck. But yeah there's A LOT more to it than just putting parts on.
that used to be teh case back then but now wit teh company Iwire, wiring is simple...
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Thanks for all the advice guys. It is going to be cheaper to get my car fixed up. I am looking about 4-5K total to get her fixed, perhaps less, and that would be the price of a swap minus the cost of a shell vehicle.

And Randi, Insurance is super cheap on my car for some reason, in fact I never took it off my insurance so I have been paying on it since the wreck just so I would not have to try and insure on the title after it was fixed. I may actually pay less than you do, we get a screaming rate because we have 3 cars on the policy, and it is tied into our homeowners insurance.
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maybe i should change my insurance company...

what needs to be fixed on teh STi, anyways?
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i'm such big idiot for posting false info...
sorry about that, all...

i actually pay $80/month for my suby and teh truck through Allstate...
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maybe i should change my insurance company...

what needs to be fixed on teh STi, anyways?

I am getting the frame pulled for around $700.00, after that I need to start pricing out the front cross member, plus the piece that goes under the radiator, as well as a new radiator, new front left headlamp, new front bumper and possibly a new hood if the current one cannot be fixed, but I think it can be.

Really it is not much in the long run, plus because it is not insurance work it does not have to be perfect, I just want it to be functional again. I miss driving it so bad.
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is ur car salvaged?
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is ur car salvaged?
That is a very good question, I am not sure. Insurance said it was, but he DMV sent a regular renewal notice to me this year, and I plan to pay it and get my tags. The only reason the Insurance "totaled" the car is they were too cheap to fix it, no airbags blew, no unfix-able damage to the car. I suspect the DMV either does not know what is going on, or the insurance failed to notify them.
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ur getting teh frame pulled, isn't that an automatic salvaged?
might want to find out...
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